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The Scientist: NewsBlog:
HIV vax testers react to Thai trial
Posted by Bob Grant [Entry posted at 24th September 2009 05:02 PM GMT]
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edit by anonymous poster [Comment posted 2009-09-29 06:05:20] it actually states that the follow-up was three years. If you'd call 31% failure... by anonymous poster [Comment posted 2009-09-29 05:58:14] then what about this: 16,000 participants. Let's assume that it's equal numbers of placebos and verums, so 8,000 people in each arm. Now come the figures, straight from the horse's mouth: "74 placebo recipients became infected with HIV compared to 51 in the vaccine regimen arm. The efficacy result is statistically significant." (LINK
Now, THIS seems to me like a really minute difference. True, it's not said for how long were the participants monitored (i.e. how much time they had to "get infected"), what statistical test was used and other details one might attack. But: if you vaccinate 8,000 people to prevent 23 from becoming infected, what's the cost-benefit? How many condoms could you give away for this money?? 31% is a good start! by Brent Neumann [Comment posted 2009-09-24 19:56:33] This trial provides very positive news in the fight against HIV. Although protection is only at ~30%, this is still effective for a third of participants. With the recent devastating failures in the field, its great to hear some gains are being made. Good points by Colin Hockings [Comment posted 2009-09-24 18:09:06] This is the first I've read that considers the further implications of how this trial actually helps us in the fight against HIV.
If you're interested in my two pence worth it's here at LINK">"The beginning of the end for HIV/AIDS? The RV144 HIV Vaccine trial in Thailand reports success". Main points being the criticisms of the trial by TAG (Treatment Action Group) from 2004 that are still valid, but it's overall it's definitely a step in the right direction. success? by anonymous poster [Comment posted 2009-09-24 18:05:06] Interesting... I would have described only 30% protection as a failure.
HIV Vaccine by RON HANSING [Comment posted 2009-09-24 16:26:19] An improvement... but the headlines are misleading.. "HIV Vaccine that work"
The problem is that the vaccine was geared to the genetics of HIV in Thailand. But what happens to the effectivness of the Vaccine when mutations change to be resistant to the vaccine? Will the vaccine still be 30% effective ten years from now? Well, at least some progress is made. ron hansing md Comment on this blog |