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Chimps get AIDS too
Posted by Jef Akst [Entry posted at 22nd July 2009 06:00 PM GMT]
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Re: Chimps and Aids by anonymous poster by emma stokes [Comment posted 2009-07-30 03:06:52] Meaningful research to find a cure or affordable vaccine - that's precisely what they're doing.
If further investigation indeed confirms the finding here, and we discover that SIV in chimps is similar to HIV in humans then we have a good animal model to use in research to find a cure/vaccine/better drugs. Animal testing will always be one of the first steps in developing new treatments and drugs, there are no viable alternatives at the moment. There's the age old argument of using people - but i'm not sure many would volunteer, and even if they did humans make awful test subjects in these initial tests anyway - too many confounding factors! Boon to Yerkes, New Iberia, Southwest, Alamogordo by Rick Bogle [Comment posted 2009-07-23 12:12:08] The main result is a likely spate of NIH-funded projects using chimpanzees. It would be worth reading Rachel Weiss's account of Jerom's miserable death, the only chimpanzee who sickened and died as a result of experimental infection with (a cacophany of) an HIV/SIV cocktail. SIVcpz & HIV-1 Origins by Jesse Creel [Comment posted 2009-07-23 07:09:22] Dear Dr Beatrice H. Hahn,
Thanks so much for your long and hard work showing that Chimps do get AIDS as well. Spoken to in the Scientist article below. You are familiar with the citation below (Clin. Chem. 45:1602-1613.) from your article: J Virol. 2003 July; 77(13): 7545?7562. doi: 10.1128/JVI.77.13.7545-7562.2003. PMCID: PMC164799 Copyright ? 2003, American Society for Microbiology Foci of Endemic Simian Immunodeficiency Virus Infection in Wild-Living Eastern Chimpanzees (Pan troglodytes schweinfurthii) 54.Urnovitz, H. B., J. C. Sturge, T. D. Gottfried, and W. H. Murphy. 1999. Urine antibody tests: new insights into the dynamics of HIV-1 infection. Clin. Chem. 45:1602-1613. [PubMed] Clin Chem. 1999 Sep;45(9):1602-13.Click here to read Links Urine antibody tests: new insights into the dynamics of HIV-1 infection. Urnovitz HB, Sturge JC, Gottfried TD, Murphy WH. Calypte Biomedical, Berkeley, CA 94710, USA. hervdoc@aol.com BACKGROUND: Noninvasive methodologies provide alternatives to diagnostic blood tests and have high patient acceptance, increased safety, and reduced costs. Such tests may supplement or replace blood diagnostic assays currently in use. METHODS: Using a licensed urine-based test for antibody to HIV-1, we performed 25 991 HIV-1 urine antibody enzyme immunoassay (EIA) screening tests [confirmable by HIV-1 Western blot (WB)] on paired urine and blood specimens obtained from high- and low-risk HIV-1 subjects collected at six sites representative of the US population. RESULTS: Using HIV-1 urine EIA tests confirmed by urine Western blot, a compartmentalized immune response (urine positive/serum negative) occurred in 0.24% of a cohort of 11 896 subjects. In the same cohort, specimens that were urine negative/serum positive occurred in 0.17% of subjects. In a second study of 25 991 subjects that included 859 high-risk individuals, the false-positive urine EIA frequency (urine WB negative or indeterminate) was 1.3%. This false-positive frequency in the high-risk cohort was attributed, in part, to an IgA antibody response. We tabulated urine and serum indeterminate reactivities and examined their possible causes. Data are presented showing that antibodies from a seroindeterminate HIV-1vau group O subject were reactive in urine EIA and urine WB tests. An analysis of the HIV-1vau strain group O env nucleotide sequence disclosed a high frequency of homology with human chromosome 7q31, a fragile site implicated in many human malignancies. CONCLUSIONS: These results demonstrate the utility of urine for alternative HIV-1 antibody testing and provide new insights into the pathogenesis of HIV-1 infection and into potential application of this approach in investigation of other microbial pathogens and toxic compounds. PMID: 10471675 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] In this 1999 time frame, if my memory serves me correctly, Dr Howard Hurnovitz presented research, using the urine HIV-1 test he developed, showing that in the case of a female French farm worker with heavy organophosphate exposure, genetic recombination events between a SIVcpz endogenous retrovirus and segments of several human chromosomes occurred which gave rise to an "HIV-1vau group O" isolate. This has intrigued me for some ten years now. This being the case, could you kindly give me your thoughts on this as relates to possible HIV-1 Orgins? Thanking you in advance. Jesse Creel Vaccine Research Advocate @anonymous poster Re: Chimps and Aids by anonymous poster [Comment posted 2009-07-23 04:16:52] Please read the paper. These apes have not been infected by humans, they are free-living wild animals that happen to have several strains of SIV circulating whithin their population. The researchers were at pains not to disturb them, and determined SIV infection by sampling urine and faeces. Do you really think Jane Goodall would have her name on a study that involved voluntarily infecting her precious chimps with SIV/HIV?
You obviously haven't read the paper, and have no idea who the researchers are. Tip: GIYF Bullshit ! by John Bush [Comment posted 2009-07-22 23:22:15] SIV is not HIV and numerous bogus studies using SIV/HIV hybrids do not change that fact. Since when has a valid replicated study showed that SIV infections of human subjects produces the same symptoms in humans as HIV ? NOW they notice by Diggitt McLaughlin [Comment posted 2009-07-22 21:39:28] I am struck by this comment about SIVs: they were universally believed to be virtually harmless.
If I'm not mistaken, the article suggests that only in the last decade was it "noticed" that infected chimps might be affected. Where did the belief described above come from then? Has an untested assumption been presented as fact for three decades? Re: Chimps and Aids by anonymous poster [Comment posted 2009-07-22 21:03:24] I think it is very unfortunate that these poor animals are being infected with SIV or HIV just to proof that it affects them too. It rather would have been better to spend all that time and resources on meaningful research to find a cure or affordable vaccine. This research I am afraid, tends towards irresponsible science because it proves nothing and dose not unravel any of the mysteries surrounding HIV/AIDS.Bioethicists should call these researchers to order. Comment on this blog |