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Brain diseases are genomic opposites
Posted by Elie Dolgin [Entry posted at 6th April 2009 10:32 PM GMT]
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opposites? by anonymous poster [Comment posted 2009-04-12 22:43:13] I believe that there very well could be a relationship between the autism spectrum and schizophrenia. The genomic opposites theory implies that although misdiagnosis between these two categories is possible because they affect similar behavior categories, it would be very unlikely that an individual would be given both diagnoses. I am aware of both diagnoses in the same individual. Does anyone know the demographics about the likelihood of both diseases being diagnosed in the same individuals? And the cure is here - on the right margin by anonymous poster [Comment posted 2009-04-11 23:41:34] While ignorant of the complexities publishing on the World Wide Web, I could not help noticing the following "Ads by Google" right next to the article:
- Autism Can Be Treated (learn to process sound) - Autism Treatment (Effective Therapy, 30 days). Three other ads offer teaching material, help and advice from non-accredited sources. The title of the first item in TheScientist/daily says it best: "What a tangled web we weave"! KM, Vallejo, California Wonderful Job by PIETRO PANEI [Comment posted 2009-04-08 02:54:21] This article is very interesting because the Authors approach the matter with new research method: the "mirror" diseases linked to dopamine level in the synaptic nerve ending. I think now is necessary to verify in an animal model this theory. There is an even bigger picture. by ROULETTE Wm. SMITH [Comment posted 2009-04-07 14:04:30] One never wants to 'toot his or her own horn'. Yet, I recommend Chris Fisher's article about my ongoing research in order to see an even bigger and more broadly based perspective (see The Behavioral Medicine Report archive article 1411.
Roulette Wm. Smith The scientific method at work by Douglas McDonald [Comment posted 2009-04-07 13:37:21] What a great example of the beginning stages of the scientific method. The investigator has conducted some observations, proposed some questions and begun developing an hypothesis or two. I wish all investigations of autism -- or any other disorder -- were approached in this manner. Very nice article.
Excellent article! by Ellen Hunt [Comment posted 2009-04-07 13:01:59] Nicely written, and clearly presented. This is very interesting, and I think increases the viability of the nerds mating with nerds hypothesis of autism.
It would also be interesting to look at average age of birth of the child, since other studies show that schizophrenia is correlated with older fathers. So maybe autism is correlated with older mothers? And maybe both of those are epigenetic effects? Very interesting, and the work fits everything I know about both conditions perfectly. I also think we need to look at both conditions as evolutionarily positive alleles, at least for groups that harbor them. But metaphorically like the warfarin resistance genetics (a different case) it may not work for larger fractions of population or for the whole population. Brain Diseases and Mitochondria by Keith Loritz [Comment posted 2009-04-07 12:04:58] Are any of these 'genes' involved in cell energy production? What Gene? by anonymous poster [Comment posted 2009-04-07 11:55:02] My daughter, who appears to be intelligent and normal, was the cause of an amniocentesis spurred scare due to a balanced translocation, her mother and she continue to ask me; "what does it mean"? I'll be plagued by this till the day I die. My answer is, as always, don't worry it's just normal random mutation, the stuff that evolution stems from, and since it is balanced it probably means nothing.
But really, as the previous poster suggested, what gene, and for that matter what chromosome? Tell us more... What about diseases like Parkinson's where hyper-dopamine release in the globus paladus contributes to the Parkinson?s related coordination problems. Could this also be related to the same gene, genes, chromosome, etc.? I?ll post anonymously out of fear for my health insurance! Now, hold on a minute... by ROBERT DODGE [Comment posted 2009-04-07 11:54:53] I also have found my self on occasion bemused by misleadingly sensational headlines, but I find myself defending the content of this one. Unlike Ben, I am not perturbed by the usual scientific caution ("might", "may", "implication", etc.) displayed in this article, since you can find that in any journal you care to name. In fact, for a finding based on other investigator's findings, I thought Crespi was downright giddy at the clarity of the conclusion. The article had two other things I feel lend credence to the report: 1) Comments from other experts not associated with the study, and 2) the suggestion of a follow-on experiment (relative dopamine levels) that test the hypothesis. Isn't that what you want from a scientific report? Thanks for nothing! by ben myson [Comment posted 2009-04-07 09:47:42] So let me see if I get this right, there is no definitive evidence that anything in this study is proof of anything, is that correct?
"Autism and schizophrenia MAY be two sides of the same genomic coin." "Several recent studies have also IMPLICATED some of the same genes in the two types..." "...sociologist at the London School of Economics, PROPOSED that autism and schizophrenia result from an evolutionary tug of war between the genes ..." "Put simply, IF the brain is controlled by father-dominated genes, you become autistic..." "Crespi has another IDEA for how the two disorders MIGHT also be linked: In his talk, he SUGGESTED that structural changes in a specific set of brain-related genes lead to either autism or schizophrenia." "For example, schizophrenic patients are THOUGHT to produce more dopamine in the brain..." "Another IMPLICATION of the study is that children with early symptoms of schizophrenia MIGHT be being misdiagnosed as autistic, and vice versa." 'Crespi said, adding that understanding the genetic underpinnings of these diseases COULD help avoid the problem." People honestly get paid to confuse the public about the cause of autism? What is the name of that autism gene, or even the schizophrenia gene, or wait is it the same one, I'm confused. Comment on this blog |