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Grants without peer review?
Posted by Elie Dolgin
[Entry posted at 12th December 2008 05:29 PM GMT]

University College London is offering new unorthodox research grants for its staff without peer review, deadlines, directives, or milestones.

The funding, which is open to any UCL employee, is in in the ballpark of £100,000 ($150,000) per year for at least three years for each awardee, according to UCL visiting earth sciences professor Don Braben, the scheme's brainchild and the founder of Venture Research International, a company that raises funds for blue skies research projects.

Unlike most lengthy grant proposals, initial applications are meant to be short -- less than 500 words long -- to detail only the research problem, its significance, and the resources needed. Successful first-round applicants will then sit down with Braben and UCL vice-provost for research David Price, who will make recommendations to UCL provost Malcolm Grant, who has the final say.

The grants "will go to UCL researchers whose ideas challenge the norm and have the potential to change substantially the way we think about an important subject," UCL wrote on its website.

UCL launched the scheme -- called the Venture Research Prize -- as the antidote to the 2008 Research Assessment Exercise (RAE), the results of which will be published next Thursday (Dec. 18). The RAE, which evaluates the quality of research at British universities and is used to allocate national funds, has been criticized for narrowing research opportunities and only rewarding safe research.

Peer review "automatically discriminates against ideas that challenge convention," Braben told The Scientist. "For most research, it's fine. But for new ideas that are a step out from what we understand -- and that's all the great ideas of the 20th century -- then peer review would work against them."

In the 1980s, Braben's Venture Research initiative funded 26 research projects, all but one of which had been turned down by peer review. He points to successes, such as University of Liverpool chemist Kenneth Seddon's discovery of ionic solvents, as evidence that the scheme works.

Braben, who laid out some of his ideas in an editorial for The Scientist in 2004, said that UCL has "set exceptionally high standards," and he dismissed the critique that he and Price will effectively serve as a peer-review panel of two. In the 1980s, he said, "we never had to have a debate as to whether someone was a venture researcher. It was obvious."

UCL is looking for motivated researchers -- "from the humblest postdocs right on up" -- who "have a vision" and "want to substantially change the way we see the world," noted Braben. "What we really need is a Nobel Prize that people can apply for," he added.

Funding people with this level of ambition will lead to valuable results, even if the original project proposal doesn't work out, Braben said. "You can't fail."


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    But who decides?
    by anonymous poster

    [Comment posted 2008-12-18 15:24:28]
    NIH gets 8-10X more applications than they can fund. So, giving everyone a little bit of money (i.e., cutting budgets by 70-80%) is a great way to make sure that no science gets done.

    Someone has to decide who gets the money. Would you rather have bureaucrats and administrators decide who gets the money? Talk about opening up the door to cronyism.



    Right direction but needs to go farther
    by John McClelland

    [Comment posted 2008-12-17 13:12:04]
    This development captures the reality that very innovative ideas often are not recognized and funded. With this scheme there is still someone making a decision on the idea so there is still a risk of rejection of a good idea. A better idea might be to let any researcher in an institution put their proposal in the hat and draw to decide which proposals are to be funded. A review committee of randomly selected fellow researchers could reject any selected proposals that had obvious serious problems or was too inconsistent with the program by a unanimous vote. This type of grant program would run in parallel with conventional programs.



    Great idea!
    by anonymous poster

    [Comment posted 2008-12-17 11:57:53]
    This is an idea whose time has come. Really good / great ideas have a big chance of being shot down. Particularly in our funding climate, your first submission will usually get rejected -even for more trivial reasons. Also many reviewers just outright lack the expertise to review multidisciplinary proposals (and no, you can't get around that totally by having one person from each area reviewing). People from big labs have the advantage, and if you are on study sections, you get to scrutinize other people's ideas and use them to better your own (hopefully you are ethical and will not steal them outright!!).

    The person that made the comment about the bailout - you are so right. Money is handed out to rescue entrenched corporate interests, but we have to spend 80% of our time on more and more paperwork - instead of at the bench. We all have finite lives and as researchers many of us who started in the 80's and 90's are getting funded so late in our careers that our training may not get put to its best use because we are jumping through the hoops of peer review. My colleagues and I have had the most incredible comments from reviewers who obviously lack the expertise and who compensate by having hubris galore. Makes you wonder. We also know of researchers who bellied up to the old-boy's trough early on, and have rarely to never had a proposal turned down. I guess timing is everything!!

    Here's what I propose: A short, two-page proposal to have seed money (up to ~ $80,000 -100,000 to generate preliminary data / work on an innovative idea)as right now for many people even a little seed money would make an enormous difference (do limit the number of times eligible; if your idea fails two times in a row, then you would have to track that to peer review). Then, for bigger projects, peer review - but in a scenario where voting can't be influenced by big names or conflicting personalities. I guarantee we'd make a lot faster progress and contribute to economic recovery!!



    Good idea, but no substitute for peer review
    by Pawel Niewiadomski

    [Comment posted 2008-12-16 19:32:43]
    It is an interesting idea, but I disagree with some of the previous comments claiming that the peer review system is worthless. In fact, although really great ideas sometimes don't get funded through that system, we see really good innovative research being done within its bounds (just read the latest issue of Cell/Nature if you have doubts about it). A great scientist will be able to get funding by submitting a conservative project and then use a pool of that money to develop his novel and revolutionary ideas into something fundable. Let's also not forget that most of the "benchwork to bedside" path is clearly incremental with only the first step being a revolutionary idea. If we gave up peer-review in favor of funding paradigm-shifting new ideas, we would end up with 95% failures, 5% awesome cool new data, and nothing even close to a marketable drug. In addition, UCL implementation of the idea "let's fund great novel projects" just reeks of politics - how do you decide what's really cool and novel and what's not - the administrators of these grants cannot possibly have enough insight into all research areas under study at the University to tell the difference. Some people will argue that we should fund most successful and innovative researchers (like HHMI and other like foundations do) and not their projects, which lets them develop stuff that they couldn't get funded otherwise, and there are good arguments to support this idea. However, giving away money based on an arbitrary decision by some highly placed University official regarding the novelty of the ideas is not really the way to go.



    Way to go......UCL
    by anonymous poster

    [Comment posted 2008-12-16 13:25:14]
    Peer review process no doubt is biased and the process enforces to fit the "novel" ideas within the context of what is known. Many novel ideas that are head of time are discounted when proposed initially to funding institutions. One of the scientists whose novel idea was discounted by a funding agency (peer review panels), subsequently went on to share the Nobel Prize in Physiology and Medicine for the same novel idea a couple of years ago.



    A Small Step in the Right Direction
    by Lev Goldfarb

    [Comment posted 2008-12-16 10:20:46]
    There is a basic misunderstanding as to how to fund research: it has to do with the important distinction between deciding on which fundamentally new research directions to fund and funding the development of more 'conventional' directions.

    The existing review system works, more or less, for the latter but, obviously, not for the former.

    Although the former decision process relates to a small number of scientists, today, during the critical/transitional period in the history of science, it is those decisions that have by far the greatest scientific and economic impacts. So far, we are doing very poorly in this respect.



    Great !
    by anonymous poster

    [Comment posted 2008-12-16 02:29:15]
    Big ideas are way ahead of their times, and this is not only true in science but in arts as well.
    The main problem of peer review is not unfair competition (although this exists), but censoring real breakthroughs.
    To put it another way, with peer review, when an idea is really innovative, we do not even know who will be able to correctly review it.
    More, this kind of grant is like biotech seed funds, but with a higher probability of success. If one is successful in 8-10 years, UCL will be the winner, and without having invested a lot.
    I would foresee big successes with this kind of grant for teams gathering people from different fields (such as biology, mathematics, physics), which are always hard to understand and review for the common peer-reviewer.
    An interesting experiment anyway.



    Great!! No more triad and unfair competition
    by anonymous poster

    [Comment posted 2008-12-15 20:11:52]
    This is absolutely wonderful. Of course it has to happen in Europe! Reviewers should be eliminated once and for all. Funding should go to the best ideas without scrutiny. Peer review is an obstacle to the progress of science and to the development of great ideas. Reviewers have the privilege to see what others are doing to steal ideas. They scrutinize and score low because they cannot stand the fierce competition for funding and feel threatened by those with great research potential. Congratulations UCL



    You Will Never Find Such Science Grant In America
    by anonymous poster

    [Comment posted 2008-12-15 15:38:08]
    But, you will find a counterpart grant without peer review for American corporate bankers, called government BAILOUT - all $700 billion worth of it, just for them.



    Its great is you like playing the lottery
    by ROBERT HARRISON

    [Comment posted 2008-12-15 14:26:56]
    Yes it looks good at first glance because none of us like putting together the usual grant applications. If an institution has some extra money and wants to hold an unorthodox grant competition that's O.K. But this scheme could never replace normal peer review simply because there is not enough money to go around. Would you want to be in a competition where there are no rules other than having "off-the-wall ideas"? Everybody could be an armchair scientist. I think I prefer to be judged with a few guidelines including "feasibility". Otherwise its just a lottery.



    Great Idea
    by Bradley Andresen

    [Comment posted 2008-12-15 14:09:29]
    Wow, this is a great idea! Tom, it will not destroy the current system, this is but an addition for one school, and the faculty can still write traditional grants. In fact if the recipients of this novel funding mechanism are really great scientists then they will continue to go for funds both traditional and novel. One potential problem is that the system does not seem to have any regulations aside from being a faculty member of UCL. I think they should limit the number of times a researcher can apply. If a scientific idea is really great and new, then once established it will provide many traditional peer review funded careers. For example: the siRNA/miRNA field. All in all this is a good step forward for funding innovative research, but I disagree with Braben for you certainly can fail, in fact many projects should if they truly are innovative, and there is no guarantee that the investigator will exceed in something grand after failure.



    Slush Fund
    by Tom Johnson

    [Comment posted 2008-12-15 13:19:14]
    This is nothing more than a slush fund that will be arbitrarily and capriciously used to reward and co-opt legitimate researchers into behaving as the institution wants them to.

    In an academic sense, it will mean producing public-relations research that justifies pre-determined adminstrative goals.

    Politically, it will divide the academic community as researchers scramble for crumbs, rather than taking time to propose detailed, peer-reviewed projects.

    It is the corporatist mentality at work. What's next, a "reality" game show, "Dollars for Docs"?

    I predict that it will be wildly successfully in meeting its goals and will further undermine the social need for research produced in an environment of academic freedom.

    Feudalism, it seems, is alive and well in a premiere UK academic institution.



    BACK TO THE FUTURE-finally
    by GORAN HELLEKANT

    [Comment posted 2008-12-15 13:15:15]
    Excellent idea which increasingly becomes more valuable, the more papers, forms, compliance documents NIH, NSF and other granting institutions require. My latest NIH proposal contained 100 pages! The funny thing is that it used to be that the institution had money and staff to support your research. Your contribution was a research project, ideas and enthusiasm to work many hours.
    During my first 10 years I spent 10% of my time on proposals and the rest in the lab. I published a lot of science! Now I spend 80% on paperwork and 10% in the lab. So back to the future and let the scientist do what he/she was trained to do: research!



    It has taken a long time!
    by Mehar Manku

    [Comment posted 2008-12-15 12:56:04]
    I congratulate UCL for taking the bold step forward and to break the mould. I am reminding those who may not have seen following comment published by Late David Horrobin in The Lancet
    Volume 348, Issue 9037, 9 November 1996, Pages 1293-1295.
    ?Peer review of grant proposals, far from being a reasonable way of ensuring quality by the allocation of funds, is a near disaster. It becomes more disastrous the more comprehensively all research funds are drawn into the peer review net. The alternative, of simply dividing some of the available funds approximately equally among productive academics, would lead to immediate improvements in productivity, innovation, ethical behaviour, and the attractiveness of a biomedical career, and would be more likely than the present system to lead to clinical advance.?



    At last
    by DAVID RAY

    [Comment posted 2008-12-15 12:39:05]
    An exciting and viable approach to funding transfomational research. Well done UCL and good luck.



    Excellent idea
    by Ellen Hunt

    [Comment posted 2008-12-15 12:35:14]
    They are completely right.



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