Golden opportunity

Donald Glotzer may hold the honor of being the world’s oldest “early career” scientist.

Throughout his entire career as a surgeon, the thought of academic research became an itch Glotzer never had time to scratch. He had chosen surgery as his specialty thinking it would give him time to conduct laboratory experiments, but he quickly learned that he was wrong—surgery, he says, “was a total commitment.” As a result, while he did publish a number of clinical and preclinical papers over the course of his career, he never got that academic experience that he had once imagined for himself. That is, until he retired.

At age 70, Glotzer officially bid his surgical career goodbye, and decided to spend his golden years in the world of academia. He interviewed a variety of other molecular and cell biologists in the Boston area to see if they thought it was a “reasonable idea for someone my age with my training,” Glotzer says. Almost uniformly, they did. “I think people initially did a double take,” says Glotzer’s son Michael, a cell biologist at the University of Chicago. “But I think once they talked to him it was clear he was very serious about it.”

Glotzer finally decided to join the lab of cell and developmental biologist Bjorn Olsen at the Harvard Medical School. “I was intrigued,” Olsen recalls. “He was clearly very committed to the idea of learning something about molecular science, which had not been possible when he was a surgeon.”

Partnering up with then-postdoc Elazar Zelzer, Glotzer began working on mice and a gene necessary for bone development, called Runx2. Using a reporter gene that showed where Runx2 was expressed, Glotzer noticed that it was showing up in the dermal papilla of hair follicles, “which has nothing to do with bone or cartilage or anything like that,” he says. It turns out “the lack of [Runx2] resulted in delayed hair follicle development,” Glotzer explains, “but more importantly it had to do with skin development as well,” involving the disregulation of sonic hedgehog—another signaling molecule in the skin (Devel Biol 315:459–473, 2008).

Now, more than a decade later, Glotzer, 81, continues to work nearly full time in the lab, and Olsen couldn’t be more pleased with his contributions. “He asks questions that the postdocs and students would not ask because they do not have his experience,” Olsen says. “He can bring any discussion into the context of human disease in ways that no one else can.”

Olsen was so enthused by Glotzer’s involvement in the lab, he even suggested that he apply for an NIH postdoctoral fellowship. He was hopeful that the NIH reviewers would see that his lifelong career as a surgeon had given him “an enormous amount of experience with problems related to human disease and human pathology.” Unfortunately, the NIH did not fund the application, arguing that they could not see what career opportunities this fellowship would bring.

“I was a little bit disappointed,” Olsen admits. In addition to funding Glotzer (whose official title is “research associate”) for “as long as he could be active and contribute,” Olsen had also hoped that Glotzer’s case would be an example of a new kind of scientist. “Many scientists do wonderful science between the years 70 and 85, perhaps even 90,” Olsen says. “Why wouldn’t one want to include them in active research projects in laboratory?”

But Glotzer doesn’t mind the lack of pay, he says. While future grants may allow the lab to support Glotzer with at least a part-time salary, for now he thinks of it as a “quid pro quo” endeavor—he helps out in the lab in exchange for the gift of knowledge. “My main goal was to learn something about molecular biology and cell biology,” he says. As far as how long he plans to continue his academic adventure, “I have always continued to call this a terminal sabbatical,” he says, “meaning I’ll be here until I die.”



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Re: Discrimination
by anonymous poster

[Comment posted 2010-03-15 15:12:53]
Yes, discriminations do still occur. Otherwise, there wouldn't be so many mediocre or incompetent, white, male PI's still dominating the scientific field, along with most other fields of all endeavors, in America! But, if they can't, then nobody can? Well, perhaps others should be given the same opportunities and time to prove or disprove that bias?



Discrimination
by anonymous poster

[Comment posted 2010-03-15 14:09:55]
In the rush to cry 'discrimination' people seem to be missing the fact that the article states Dr. Glotzen applied for a postdoctoral fellowship. Even if he was only 36 years old, and 10 years out of graduate school, its unlikely his application would have been successful.




Count Him Among the More Fortunate
by anonymous poster

[Comment posted 2010-03-15 10:28:10]
A case of age discrimination by NIH? Yes, but I believe NIH, like most federal agencies, still practice other discriminations based on race, ethnicity, gender, etc., against the official policy of non-job-related discrimnations constantly proclaimed in writing or otherwise. Under the current, poor employment climate in the U.S., I can only presume that such discriminations have become worse. And unless there is a clear proof, it cannot be challenged, so it goes on unaware or ignored by the federal government.



Inspirating though not surprising
by anonymous poster

[Comment posted 2010-03-14 23:13:20]
This article is quite an inspiration for the older scientist like me -starting afresh.
Though it is not surprising that at older age one can start the career in science- I feel that in current time (where H factor and impact factor etc is in fashion) older age ONLY one can do good and original research.
At my young age I was interested in Science and Research, then I discovered that I am suppose to do MS then PhD for qualifying to do research!

Then my journey started to do MS (by reserch) and PhD -doing this I realised that I am doing exactly opposite then what I was suppose to do as the researcher -the first thing was I was suppose to be a psychopanth -other wise the research supervisor will not approve my results. Secondly, I have to learn sweet talk, waste lot of time and energy from saving from comitting scientific misconduct and save my credibility.

Lots of other paraphenalia unrelated with new discovery or original findings!

In the mean time I got married as needed by society -Had two childrens got them in college and ONLY now at 50 I think that I am time tested committed scientst and whatever research I will do will be simply curiocity driven and not to impress the supervisor or peers or grant authorities -so my life as researcher begins at 50! I was little bit wary but reading this article gave me new hope.

I hope that scientific community in general and NIH in particular will learn the lesson.









Lost opportunity for innovation
by Dvorah Feder

[Comment posted 2010-03-13 17:12:39]
Academic and industrial institutions (whether they admit it or not) are severely suffering from a downward trend of innovation. It is a pity that the NIH could not think outside-of-the-box to fund this "Senior Scientist". Inclusion of experienced, incredibly valuable doctors and scientists in academic and industrial labs could surely lead to some interesting new scientific findings.



NIH could benifit by more physician involvement
by Steven Brenner

[Comment posted 2010-03-13 08:46:41]
I agree, being a doctor, there is no time for research as such, clinical activities being so demanding of time and effort there is little time for academic activities except perhaps in a few research institutions. Most research now is conducted by teams as well, with research laboratories and collaboration between labs in different regions and even countries.
Certainly there should be a place for the committed person who has important ideas to develop with different perspectives such as a retired physician.
Perhaps there should be more emphasis on clinician input into grant applications at NIH, through appointment of physicians to review grant proposals at NIH. Retired physicians might have the time and experience to make real contributions if appointed to panels at NIH and research institutions reviewing grants making strategic decisions about directions of research.



why retire?
by anonymous poster

[Comment posted 2010-03-12 15:38:11]
I am glad this example came up with my being a 49 year old PhD student in bioinformatics who fears the same thing happening to me. Too often we have younger scientists bellyaching in The Scientist about how older scientist aren't retiring so the younger scientist can get the position and grant money. This example shows how older people can still contribute to science. We shouldn't be shoved out in the cold just because we reached retirement age. Fortunately, I don't need grant money to operate a lab. I just need enough money to get a supercomputer account and money to publish. I'll still need a salary because I have little to retire as of now. I am still young enough I do have a chance to save but I have no plans of retiring at 67. Having been out of the workforce on disability I know how depressing it is not to do something meaningful with your life. Having been "retired" once, I don't intend on doing it again.



great use of experience
by anonymous poster

[Comment posted 2010-03-12 14:08:10]
This article is inspiring. Perhaps "senior scientists" (55+years) have to form a lobby group or hold annual thinkers' meetings. We could add a lot to mentor those just starting to write articles and applications, just starting to set up labs and form teams. We have learned how to work well, even if it is harder to pull all-nighter experiments.



Age discrimination blatent in corporate science, also
by anonymous poster

[Comment posted 2010-03-12 12:31:18]
I am 55 this year and, along with my peers, generally considered over the hill and not able to do 'modern science' for the corporation. I was told at a job interview in the company I work for that my chemistry degree was 'out of date' in spite of my having invented products resulting in hundreds of millions in sales for the corporation and significant IP over the last 28 years. This company has eliminated most of it's experienced thinkers through early retirement and layoffs, irregardless of their track records. I commonly hear negative comments from younger managers about older technical people not 'doing what they are told'. At the same time we are hearing there is a lack of available trained and capable technical employees in the job market. We need to stop throwing out our most valuable resource in the sciences - lifetime experience.



The roots are deeper.
by anonymous poster

[Comment posted 2010-03-04 13:09:49]
My father 92 in Ukraine as a scientist earn more that his pension. I am a scientist 64 who published more than 100 scientific articles, inventions, etc. Despite my great efforts last 5 years in America I could not earn anything working on my scientific ideas for free. I agree that it is true that age discrimination ?is rampant in academia?. Seems to me doctor Glotzer did not realize that a notion fair intellectual competition is forgotten in science long ago. Fair competition has to be based on a principle: ?equal opportunities for equally good ideas?. In reality it is: ?the best opportunities for the scientific establishment?. Realization of the last principle leads to a mechanism of negative selection: the establishment become less and less intellectually capable. It is good that The Scientist have touched one of the nerve of this complicated problem. It would be even better to dig deeper trying to elucidate the roots.



a blatant example of age discrimination
by N SUKUMAR

[Comment posted 2010-03-03 11:59:48]
NIH's attitude is a blatant example of the age discrimination, against scientists who have followed non-traditional career paths, that is rampant in academia.






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